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  1. great video!!! I love the way you both explain the true!!!! I agree all the time with you guys…so Congrats about the new site…so beautiful pictures, specially Kim using a Indian clothes very cutie! thank you both to share your love and your time to help another to see who is that Witch Tower , like Rick Gonzales told in one of his video! xoxo

  2. great website Mike and Kim.Great Job.Shalum

  3. Hey really pleased to see you up and running with this new website!
    Love and best wishes to you both Shyla and James
    Chris X X X

  4. Love your videos. I was a Witness in the 60s, a long time ago. Your style reminds of an aunt who was a Witness all her life. It has the necessary folks’ outlook. It is comforting you figured it out. Nowadays I debate whether Apollonius (Paul) was a physician or surgeon, so far beyond Watchtower study as to be in another galaxy. You will learn it was Serapis Christ first century. You are that intelligent. Learn Osiris to Serapis to Jesus and earn a degree in Classics at college. Study Malachi 4:2 and become a mythicist. Think Sun, because it is Sun worship from so far into antiquity, it goes back to Stonehenge. Watch D.M. Murdock videos on YouTube. She is the best living mythicist. By the way, Witnesses have 12% college graduates; the UU (Unitarian Universalist) has 72%. Unitarian is not Trinitarian, but so liberal as to smoke any Witness.

    One year out is many texts to go. Philostratus, 2nd century, is on You Tube. It is long stretches of not so interesting material with the occasional what the heck. It’s around 18 hours in two volumes. Make a lot of popcorn. Apollonius is the Apostle Paul of the Greek Scriptures. He went to medical school at a Temple of Asclepius about 5 miles from Tarsus. Asclepius is the blow away to Christianity. He was a son of Zeus, a stone statute, but very useful, as ancients got sick. Jesus by Irenaeus’ account in John 5 went into the Temple complex. He wrote John CE 178 to as possibly as early as CE 175, after reading the Gospel of Judas (out since 2005).

    One of the better books, 1999, is The Jesus Mysteries – Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God. It’s well written. The authors are on video but get too much into Thoth, Hermes in Greek. It departs too much from ex-Witness learning. What happens is one studies ancient Egypt by no choice, as they invented the mess. Horus myth is Jesus, baptism, 12 disciples, and most of the story. Jesus story is copycat story.

    By the way, in the myths Jesus was born December 25th. He has been born every December 25th (there is celestial progression, but astronomy study is that game). Every pagan God was born December 25th, from Osiris forward.

    Read Clement I, online. He wrote in the 90s to as early as before CE 70. He was Pope in the 90s. He proved the resurrection by the Phoenix Bird, the very emblem of 1st century Christianity, before fish. He received the story from Apollonius, recorded in Philostratus. Eusebius despised Philostratus, for obvious reasons.

    Apollonius also was the Apostle John of Greek Scriptures. He learned the Logos from Philo in Alexandria, Egypt. He attended the Temple of Serapis in Alexandra, recorded in Philostratus. You must watch History Channel Ancient Discoveries Machines of the Gods. It’s on Heron, the machinist who almost started the Industrial Revolution in the 1st century. Philo said the Logos is the Second God, clearing up the NWT translation. He is the man from whom Paul learned.

    So you think Apollonius wrote the Gospel of John? I do think he wrote a proto John. Irenaeus refers to it in the gospel. Blame Apollonius/Paul for John 1:1. Catholics say Philo is the father of Christianity. He never heard of Jesus, however.

  5. In words, the average JW is illiterate on religion as they are uneducated. Translated, they need to jump from elementary school to college in a leap. There are very few ex-Witnesses that can do it. We can skip biological anthropology as few JWs even take college biology. Great subjects, however.

    When it is said something is fabrication the natural tendency is to avoid. It’s a question of emphasis. Saying IT IS myth means mythology is legitimate study. Jesus is so-so myth. Dionysus is better. It is cultural prejudice on best. One could prefer Aten on the back of Tut’s royal chair. Graphically, it exists in a museum.

    Witnesses know the pronunciation of YHWH was lost. Jehovah was coined CE 1270. The pronunciation of YHWH is known. It is said YeHOva, from the research of the brilliant Israeli scholar, Nehemia Gordon on YouTube. (Forget the exact video.) The pronunciation marks (not from Adonai) are in an old codex, Allepo if memory serves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFgIu8z4oqo He has the pronunciation on more than one video.

    The Mythicist Perspective: Mythology as the Bedrock of Modern Religions just came out two days ago. Decades old material is good, but the new refers to recent books on myth (my understanding of gold). Best thing is, it is video on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4rl9jDS2II

    You will know being ex-Witness is far from where this goes. I’d apologize but this is reality.

    There are those who say Apollonius learned Krishna myth in India. I am not totally sold, but read on it. The biggest problem is Apollonius went to Kashmir, and Yeshua is recorded there. I haven’t unraveled it, or whether Apollonius wrote epistles from India. I have paid more attention to his diet, as it’s far easier to track. He was vegan and learned from reading Pythagoras either in Tyana or Tarsus (favored). Pythagoras learned from Kashmir and why Apollonius backtracked him there. Say simple, just avoid animal product. (Genesis 1:29) Hebrew says alive-plants and fruit, but I haven’t proven Apollonius was raw vegan. He spent too much time in breadbasket Egypt to believe he avoided cooked bread, and Philostratus mentions he ate bread. Cooked anything is “sin” for raw vegans. Genesis 1:29, is supremely sophisticated, and did Apollonius make it that far? He may have. He wrote the original Revelation on Patmos and it says [ESV]:
    22 Then the angel[a] showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life[b] with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants[c] will worship him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.

    Only raw vegans know leaves heal. Unfortunately, Revelation was edited several times and is not good as apocryphal literature. The BUT is the editor(s) did not grasp healing leaves, and it remained in the text. The question, therefore, is whether Apollonius was raw vegan? We only have the word of Philostratus that he ate bread. He avoided wine with a passion and it can be linked to raw vegan. His diet ultimately is interesting because of Genesis 1:29. He read Hebrew.

    In medicine and science, green leaves heal as diet, a hard fact. Hippocrates Health Institute today fills one with wheatgrass in Florida. Only Therapeutae knew in the 1st century. Apollonius was a Therapeut. Therapist, physician or doctor if one prefers modern lingo. Philostratus implies he attended a Temple of Asclepius (think medical school) between ages 14 and 16. Smart teenager! Hippocrates earlier learned at a Temple of Asclepius.

    The technical question is, was he a physician or a surgeon?

    While the Greek Scriptures are edit city, the Hippocratic oath is an ancient Greek text. It opens:

    I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgement.

    Apollo was Tom, Dick and Harry to Greeks, a widely used name. But the oath says Apollo is the physician and Asclepius [variant spelling] is the surgeon.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

    Apollonius emphasized Pythagoras and I tend to think he was a physician. Surgery is a specialty, and the doctor needed to stay put and not travel everywhere like Apollonius.

    One would love to see the curriculum at a Temple of Asclepius. The general is he studied medicine and Pythagorean philosophy. It seems the school awarded him the walking cane, likely their way of giving a diploma. View it and draw an opinion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Tyana#mediaviewer/File:Philosophe_errant_Apollonius-de-Tyane.jpg

    The bigger question is weight and whether it fits with raw vegan. My surmise is Titus carved it on Crete (subject to further learning). Titus was a companion of Apollonius in hard knowledge. Most scholars, however, say the book of Titus is not authentic Paul. I haven’t got into the reasons they draw the opinion. It may be an edited version of an original Titus. Titus was young and most likely survived into the 2nd century. The reasoning would be he remained on Crete. As statue carvings go, it is excellent art.

    I do not buy, not any shoes on the Himalayas, where he travelled. But barefoot argues for raw vegan. He went barefoot most places. The clothing is linen from flax. He vowed no animal clothing, screaming raw vegan.

    It goes from standard diet, vegetarian, vegan, to raw vegan. There is much error in vegan, cooking being prominent. The exact and precise reason God told Adam it was alive-plants and fruit is cooking chemically alters food. Heat deactivates enzymes, which He when to the trouble of creating/evolving. It alters proteins and fats. HHI has good video on it. I think lesson 7 by Dr. Clément’s wife has the material. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Hippocrates+Health+Institute

    It’s Genesis 1:29 on steroids. The point isn’t to convert to raw vegan but to ask the diet of Apollonius. Not even Apollonius got pushy on followers, which most vegans would but not raw vegans. God took the same approach and left it up to Adam.

    Apollonius is THE man, not C.T. Russell or the Watchtower Board. Roman emperors liked him. Hadrian, in addition to Apollonius’ sister, collected his epistles.

    Enjoy learning myth. Apollonius was real, the plus.

    • Correction: Apollonius attended school at age 14 in Tarsus and then was admitted into the Temple of Asclepius about 5 miles to the west. He was out by age 20, but the duration of the medical training hasn’t bee learned. Estimate is two years but could have been up to four years. He became vegan at age 16 from studying Pythagorean philosophy.

  6. Hi Mike and Kim
    Youve made some brilliant vids! Many thanks indeed!
    I was glad that you made a video about caligirl (Caligirl takes on jehovah witnesses goliath fear) -shes cool- Id really like to see her in a group Ive asked her but got no respose could you someone reach out to her again via a email /vid

  7. In 1980 I was baptized. In 1991 I dissociated. Thanx to Darek Barefoot and Ray Franz and the like. I met Ray at an anti witness convention. You all are genuine folks. I enjoy your videos! You will need to carry this on for a time but let me speak to you both personally. One day it will be important for you to move on with your lives, there is so much to do yet in your lives. But for now,give it hell!

  8. In 1980 I was baptized. In 1991 I dissociated. Thanx to Darek Barefoot and Ray Franz and the like. I met Ray at an anti witness convention. You all are genuine folks. I enjoy your videos! You will need to carry this on for a time but let me speak to you both personally. One day it will be important for you to move on with your lives, there is so much to do yet in your lives. But for now,give it hell! This will all be behind you one day. Love and support!!!

  9. Some of those words I wrote were given to me by Ray Frantz. Even he saw the need for real freedom by moving on. Right now it seems fun. But later the burden and judgements needed to try to bring this monster down will only work I’ll will on your soul. I know if I knew you guys we would be good friends! I even though leaving ,still associate with some witnesses. There really is no power there at all. It’s all a facade! My real email is radical.00. ms@gmail.com but your site would not accept it. If you want to hear more of what Ray said , you could just email me. Love your bro! Marty

  10. In the 13th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah commanded his watchman to denounce the “stupid prophets” of Israel – Jehovah spoke to Ezekiel: “Son of man, prophesy concerning the prophets of Israel who are prophesying, and you must say to those prophesying out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of Jehovah. This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who are walking after their own spirit, when there is nothing that they have seen!’” Jehovah went on to state concerning the “stupid prophets”: “They have visioned what is untrue and a lying divination, those who are saying, ‘The utterance of Jehovah is,’ when Jehovah himself has not sent them, and they have waited to have a word come true. Is it not an untrue vision that you men have visioned, and a lying divination that you have said, when saying, ‘The utterance of Jehovah is,’ when I myself have spoken nothing?

  11. Thank you John

  12. I hate your videos. You apostate SOBs. You will all burn at Armageddon. LOL. I just want to act like a JW. I never been a JW but I witness to them when they come to my house. THey stop coming. LOL

    • Hi, yes, you start making them uncomfortable they won’t come back. Since you were never a JW, if you have any questions or need any of their literature or history, just ask. 😉 take care

    • I remember once when out in service one of the witnesses had a bad call and said something similar when he got back and in much more detail, but for more accuracy remove the word SOB and replace burn with die.

  13. The Watchtower Policy regarding Children is actually an After the Fact Policy.

    Indeed it is mis-Named and is Actually a Pedophile Protection Policy for Pedophile Brothers/Sisters and Elders within the thousand of Cobgregations

    – Preparation and Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance a Motto that is written in Bold Capitals above the Door of each every Legal Department in Bethels throughout the World

  14. Thanks y’all for all you do. You are badly needed and you are doing more good than you will ever be able to appreciate. I wonder, as cash rich as the WEB&TS is, what will the sheeple do when the GB takes off with the cash and disappears? What will happen when all their property is suddenly found to be sold and the money is gone? What will happen to all the sheeple whose KHs have been sold, no more WT or Awake and the GB are living in hiding in some tropical paradise? That is what I expect to happen when the internet finally destroys the Watchtower Babble and crap society.

  15. “Book of enslavement” Whoa, it came to my mind the movie “The book of Eli” and how the “villain” of the movie wanted possession of the book for other purposes. I highly recommend watching that movie.

    On the other hand, let me correct you, Mikey. WTBTS still uses the KIT. Install the JW Library app in your “smart” phone and you’ll find it there.

    In response to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E-QOupm-to

  16. Response to your ytb vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOOvd3QnGCM (Ask the Elders- Politics)

    39:06 JWs will rebut you with Lk. 9: 62.

  17. Did you verify that this information is true about the revised secret elders book?

    About your video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0BaLO4T-m4

  18. Hello Mike and Kim.

    Thanks for sharing your research findings in your youtube videos. It has helped me a lot in my material for my channel meant for the Latino community.

    In one of the videos, Kim stated that Watchtower was not appointed as FDS in 1919. Rather, that appointed was going to be for the future. However the Wt 7/15/2013 article doesn’t mention that. Hopefully by now you have read carefully the article and notice what the change was.

    About your video – The Governing Body’s Credentials- Pt 1 jw.org

  19. Great videos and site, Mike and Kim!!! 😃

  20. Distance may separate us, but ours hearts are united. Wish i could give you and everybody else more than words. But the most valuable of what i have, my love, is all yours.
    Thank you from deep within my heart for helping setting me and many others free…..

  21. Mike and Kim,
    Thanks again for the info and thank the informant who is sending the info. We need more like them and you.
    It might take a while but we are watching all your vids. I love the sarcasm Mike. We would get along great.
    Take care,
    From SD,
    Your Friends in The Fight

    • Thank you very much. We’re glad you like our brand of humor. Have a wonderful day

      • Hi there. I’ve watched a couple of your videos and I think you both are so right. I was brought up a witness and found only recently how much I’ve been lied to. As you understand the feelings I went through were horrible. It’s nice to hear that people have the same opinions that I do and can help me recover slowly from the damage done in a life time. Thanks again for amazing TRUE videos and opinions. Not what they call so called apostates. People have a right to an opinion.

  22. Thanks Mike and Kim. This is just another example of a cop-out. Lett just demoralized the Apostles for asking a question. So I guess now anytime someone asks a question they should be corrected for having the wrong expectations!!!!!!! Get real GB.
    Call me nit picky, but it was verse six and not verse eight. Anyways, this kind of pointing the finger to justify their stupidity just solidifies how wrong they are.

  23. This is one of my favorite videos -(Jws are being squeezed into satans mould)- that you guys made. Thanks, and keep up the good work at exposing the witnesses.It makes me realize that it might not be a good idea to try to “go back to Jehovah.” I must realize that God,(or Jehovah)is still with me and loves me and wants me to do well and to be happy. I do not need to be a witness to achieve my ultimate happiness or to “have Gods favor and blessing”.

    Shane G.—-disfellowshipped since 2000—–(for 16 years, now)—old timer.

  24. Hello Mike and Kim –
    It’s good to see you back. About your recent video https://youtu.be/ilDQcvS5QMk?list=UUG2tODD7ys5CYEu6qYvj1SA, yes you make a valid point about the timecard and volunteer work. Now, since the publishers don’t send a bill to Watchtower (Watch Tower) for the labor, then Watchtower is not forced to pay for it. When the “bible study” is considered as an unbaptized publisher, if s/he doesn’t mention anything about getting paid for the preaching work, then it is assumed (even by law) that the contract terms are to volunteer without pay.

    I guess you have convince all judges and juries involve in a case like that that the person deserves compensation. But I doubt it. Those terms were not negotiated from day one.

  25. Hello Mike and Kim

    I enjoy watching most of your videos. Thank you so much for your effort!
    Today, I found this on JW.org about Watchtower is trying to ask all Jehovah’s Witnesses to write letters again the Ban in Russia. Here is the link: https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jw-mobilize-global-response-to-threat-of-ban/#?insight%5Bsearch_id%5D=2dd54464-d16a-401f-a3ac-58fc4500ec36&insight%5Bsearch_result_index%5D=0
    I would like to know what you guys think.

    Have a good day!

  26. I just want to preface this comment by saying I am an Ex JW and have been for something like 12 years now so don’t get me wrong when I say this, because I am on your side, but you have heard of the cloud before and even in the video the scripture is mentioned about Moses crossing the red sea. Psalm 78:14 “14Then He led them with the cloud by day And all the night with a light of fire.”

    That said perhaps it’s something else I’m missing from the video, I’m a first time visitor, thank you.

    • Yes, we have heard about the ‘cloud’ that led them and hovered over the Tabernacle while they were in the wilderness, but we had never heard them say “See the cloud” like it was something tangible today almost like they are trying to connect it to the organization ‘mother’.

  27. Just stay sweet and good

    So therefore these spiritual Jews are in violation of Deuteronomy 22:26 and Leviticus 17: 15. Are people required to repent (gravel) for violating Leviticus 15:16-18? I don’t think so! Nobody is going to go down to these “priests” and tell them they have “washed themselves and remained till evening”. If that were the case, brothers would have to disqualify themselves from “serving in the congregation” because they were enjoying their conjugal rights and therefore unqualified to “serve” in the congregation! I don’t think so!

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